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  Trump or Contested Convention?

  by Coded Logic in

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  for those of us who are hillary and bernie fans, which is the better outcome - to have donald trump as the republican's nomination whose unpopular with most americans?

  or are we better off watching the chaos of a contested convention and the party eventually putting up someone weak like john kasic or jeb bush?

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  For those of us who are Hillary and Bernie fans, which is the better outcome - To have Donald Trump as the Republican's nomination whose unpopular with most Americans? Or are we better off watching the chaos of a contested convention and the party eventually putting up someone weak like John Kasic or Jeb Bush?
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  Not the Author of Confusion

  by Coded Logic in

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  609 african independent charismatic.

  black american apostolic.

  african independent charismatic.

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  I honestly don't see how the inspirations of Bach and Michelangelo make religion any less full of crap.

  People used to build highly detailed and intricate models showing how the Earth was the center of our solar system. But such creativity doesn't make geocentrism any less bogus.

  And who knows what far more beautiful work Bach or Michelangelo might have produced had their minds not been vandalized by the small mindedness of religion.
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  Any thought behind your " Avatar"

  by The Rebel in

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  i think that's the correct phrase?

  anyway when i first came here, that little picture that "the rebel" hides behind, was a self portrait of a very sad man, who simply had too much knowledge.

  now i feel after 7 months here, i should repaint that " avetor" give some happiness to the eyes, and a contented smile to the lips.. in short my " avetor" was a self portrait of a man with too much knowledge.

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  My Avatar is the symbol the Romulan Empire. Descendants of the Vulcans, they rejected Surak's teachings during the Time of the Awakening and marched under the banner of a bird of prey. Thus the raptor symbol.

  Romulans are stubborn, emotional, and prone to profound arrogance.

  Sound like anyone we know?
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  Not the Author of Confusion

  by Coded Logic in

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  609 african independent charismatic.

  black american apostolic.

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  Coded Logic

  Not sure why Wild Thing got a thumbs down. Giving you a big thumbs up!
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  What was there before the Big Bang?

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpuhj98vjoa.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hik8hj0_t9q.

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  Coded Logic

  you cant have something come from nothing.
  -SWN

  How do you know this? Have you ever observed a lack of space time and energy? How would you know how it behaves?

  I'd recommend you do a little reading on entropy. It doesn't just imply that we can get something from nothing. Rather, it means that "nothing" is inherently unstable and will always produce something.

  Our intuitions are useless here. We have no prior experience in the formation of universes that we can draw upon.  "That doesn't sound right to me" is not a valid objection.
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  I am confused,bewildered

  by bobld in

  1. watchtower
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  on their social media site:why do we attend large assemblies?

  god's sevants in the past,who were instructed to assemble three times a year, we.

  look forward to meeting together in large groups.soon they will be out in full force.

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  JW theology is truly religion ala carte. Check out the latest NWT

  
  
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  Leaving The Cult is Exactly Like This...

  by cofty in

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  Coded Logic

  We didn't leave religion because we lost our faith. Rather, we found our curiosity. And what a beautiful world it is that we've since discovered.
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  What is R&F

  by Drifting Away in

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  i see the letters r&f often, but i dont know what that stands for..can someone tell me?

  tia

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  Hahahaha, nice Baker!

  For a long time I thought it meant The "Truth" Ain't The Truth
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  Christians Know Who God Is

  by Loi_241 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  many of us christians have a good question for you to ask, “who is god?” there are more than six scriptures to share with you.

  you know the bible itself a true message for all the people on earth.

  the bible explains ‘in the beginning god created everything: heaven, earth, animals, people and everything.’ thus, you notice god created humans, adam and eve.

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  Coded Logic

  The OP makes a number of very unconvincing and unsubstantiated assertions.

  Well said. Simply saying something is the case does not make it the case. And empty assertions are not going to convince anyone of anything. If people want to be taken seriously, they need to show they have good reasons for believing the things they believe.
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  Not the Author of Confusion

  by Coded Logic in

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  609 african independent charismatic.

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  Coded Logic

  Most Christians believe that God inspired the Bible in some form or another. But if you believe that God is "not the author of confusion" (1 Corinthians 14:33) then why do people who are honestly seeking the Christian God disagree on just about every single point? And why are there so many different types of Christians?

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  There are:

  • The Roman Catholics
  • 435 types of Conservative Catholic (schism ex-Rome)
  • 32 Independent Russian Orthodox
  • 30 Orthodox sect/sectarian
  • 27 Liberal Catholic (Theosophical, Masonic, Gnostic)
  • 26 Old Catholic (i.e. split with Rome after Vatican Council I)
  • 25 Old Believer, Old Ritualist (Russian Orthodox sect)
  • 24 Independent Ukrainian Orthodox
  • 23 Reformed Orthodox (uncanonical)
  • 16 Reformed Catholic (retaining Roman Catholic claims)
  • 8 Old Calendarist (Authentic Orthodox)
  • 6 True Orthodox (conservative Russian Orthodox)
  • 5 Independent Serbian Orthodox
  • 5 Latin-rite Catholic
  • 5 Independent Assyrian or Nestorian
  • 3 Independent Romanian Orthodox
  • 2 Independent Estonian Orthodox
  • 2 Independent Greek Orthodox
  • 1 Independent Bulgarian Orthodox
  • 1 Independent Byzantine rite
  • 1 Independent Hungarian Orthodox
  • 1 Independent Macedonian Orthodox
  • 1 Independent Moldavian Orthodox

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  Then there are the Independent Christians:

  • 65 types of Filipino Charismatic
  • 70 Chinese neocharismatic
  • 71 Chinese Charismatic
  • 78 Black American pentecostal
  • 82 Holiness (Conservative Methodist, non-pentecostal)
  • 86 Afro-Caribbean Oneness pentecostal
  • 92 Latin American Charismatic
  • 92 Anglican/Independent Evangelical
  • 92 Independent Methodist
  • 95 Indian pentecostal
  • 96 African Oneness pentecostal
  • 96 marginal independent (Black/Third World)
  • 99 White-led Oneness pentecostal
  • 102 Arab Charismatic
  • 133 Black American Oneness pentecostal
  • 133 Independent Disciple, Restorationist, Christian
  • 136 Independent Reformed, Presbyterian
  • 158 Zionist African Independent
  • 167 Korean pentecostal (mixed traditions)
  • 177 Indonesian pentecostal
  • 208 New/Old Apostolic, Catholic Apostolic (Irvingite, an Anglican / Presbyterian / Adventist sect)
  • 221 Brazilian/Portuguese pentecostal
  • 225 ethnic or monoethnic denomination
  • 226 White-led Full Gospel
  • 236 Nondenominational (no church or anti-church)
  • 271 Independent Baptist
  • 281 Latin American grassroots
  • 281 Filipino neocharismatic
  • 300 Brazilian grassroots
  • 343 Afro-Caribbean pentecostal
  • 439 African Independent Spiritual
  • 475 Indian Charismatic
  • 609 African Independent Charismatic
  • 644 Latin American pentecostal
  • 805 single autonomous congregations
  • 813 White-led pentecostal
  • African Independent Apostolic
  • Black American Apostolic
  • Filipino Apostolic
  • Indian Apostolic
  • another 8 groups have "Apostolic"
  • African Independent Charismatic
  • Black American Charismatic
  • Chinese Charismatic
  • African Independent Full Gospel
  • Black American Full Gospel
  • Chinese Full Gospel
  • another 10 groups have "Full Gospel"
  • another 20 groups have "house-church network" or "cell-based network"
  • another 14 are something-"neocharismatic"
  • another 12 are something-"Oneness pentecostal"
  • another 18 are something-"pentecostal"
  • another 12 are something-"radio/TV believers [or "network"]" (i.e. the "pastor" for these independent Christians is some personality on radio or TV)
  • then we have a couple deliverence/pentecostal groups
  • Word of Faith / Prosperity groups
  • a couple of "mixed traditions"
  • some "Zionist" groups
  • Independent Anglicans or Anglo-Catholic groups in both Catholic and Protestant directions
  • Independent Adventists
  • apocalyptic or eschatological ("end times") groups
  • Independent Baptists
  • British-Israelites
  • Hidden Buddhist believers in Christ
  • some Independent Orthodox groups
  • independent Christian Brethren (Plymouth Brethren)
  • schismatic Conservative Catholics
  • Independent Congregational, Congregationalists
  • Independent Disciple, Restorationist, Christian
  • Independent Dunkers (Tunker, Dipper)
  • Independent Exclusive Brethren (Closed, Strict)
  • episcopi vagantes ("wandering" bishops-at-large, very small under 100 members)
  • Independent Estonian Orthodox
  • Independent Anglican Evangelical
  • Independent Fundamentalist
  • Gay/Lesbian homosexual tradition (i.e. so-called "gay churches" such as Metropolitan Community Churches)
  • Independent Greek Orthodox
  • Hidden Hindu believers in Christ
  • Holiness or Conservative Methodist (non-Pentecostal)
  • Independent Hungarian Orthodox
  • Independent Jehovah's Witnesses (True Faith Jehovah's Witnesses, Lord's Witnesses, Christian Witnesses of Jah)
  • Messianic, Jewish-Christian congregations
  • Independent "Latin-rite" Catholics
  • Independent "Liberal" Catholics (Theosophical, Masonic, Gnostic)
  • 7 Independent Protestant or Orthodox churches
  • Hidden Muslim believers in Christ
  • Independent Assyrian or Nestorian
  • No-Church Movement
  • Non-denominational (no church or anti-church groups) {Christians who don't even think there should be Churches}
  • Old Believer, Old Ritualist
  • Old Catholics (i.e. split from Rome after Vatican Council I)
  • Old Calendarist (Authentic Orthodox)
  • Orthodox sect/sectarian
  • Independent Friends (Quakers)
  • 3 indy "Reformed" groups (Anglican, Catholic, Orthodox)
  • Independent Spiritualist, spiritists, occultists
  • Traditionalist Anglicans
  • True Orthodox (Conservative Russian Orthodox)
  • Independent Ukrainian Orthodox
  • United church (various united bodies)
  • community church or union congregation
  • ethnic or monoethnic denominations
  • independent evangelicals (dispensationalist)
  • marginal independent Christian (Black / Third-World)
  • isolated radio churches (unorganized)
  • single autonomous congregations

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  And let's not forget the Protestants

  • Adventist
  • Baptist
  • Christian Brethern (Plymouth Brethren)
  • Congregational, Congregationalist
  • Disciple, Restorationist, Restorationist Baptist, Christian
  • Dunker (Tunker), Dipper, German Baptist, Brethren
  • Exclusive Brethren (Plymouth Brethren, Closed)
  • Anglican Evangelical, Independent Evangelical
  • Fundamentalist
  • Holiness (Conservative Methodist, Wesleyan, Free Methodist)
  • Lutheran / Reformed united church or joint mission
  • Lutheran
  • Mennonite, Anabaptist (Left Wing or Radical Reformation)
  • Methodist (mainline Methodist, United Methodist)
  • Moravian (Continental Pietist)
  • Oneness-Pentecostal or Unitarian-Pentecostal: Jesus Only
  • Baptistic-Pentecostal or Keswick-Pentecostal
  • Holiness-Pentecostal: 3-crisis-experience
  • Apostolic, or Pentecostal Apostolic (living apostles)
  • Pentecostal (Protestant; Classical Pentecostal)
  • Friends (Quaker)
  • Reformed, Presbyterian
  • Salvationist (Salvation Army)
  • United church (union of bodies of different traditions)
  • Waldensian

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  And here's some of the Marginals (including our favorite)

  • Christadelphian
  • apocalyptic, eschatological (i.e. "end times" Christians)
  • Divine Science
  • Gnostic, esoteric, anthroposophical
  • Holy Spirit Association for Unification of World Christianity
  • Jehovah's Witnesses
  • Latter-day Saints (Mormons), including Mormon schismatics
  • Liberal Catholic (Theosophical, Masonic, Gnostic)
  • schism from Orthodox, in marginal direction
  • Paulician, Bogomil
  • metaphysical science or "Divine/Religious Science"
  • Spiritualist, Spiritist, psychic, occult
  • Swedenborgian (Church of the New Jerusalem; spiritualistic)
  • Theosophist, Theosophical, synthesist
  • Unitarian, Universalist, Free Christian, Liberal Christian

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  This is just a sampling of the 33,000 denominations of Christianity in the US. Surely no God would be so incompetent as to inspire a book for humanity that no humans could understand or agree upon.

  However, if the Bible is nothing more than a collection of various mythologies and histories cobbled together by ancient men - then such confusion is exactly what we'd expect to see.